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Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:12 pm to
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Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26447 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:12 pm to
It doesnt matter what is just, It matters what you can prove in the court of law. Ellison is going to end up fricking this up.

Its possible that he is working a plea deal angle?



Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68516 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:12 pm to
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How did this crook Ellison become AG?

It's MN and in line with the other retards they've elected
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
163664 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:13 pm to
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The maximum sentence for second degree murder is less than 40 years in prison.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19107 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:13 pm to
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Keith Ellison is going to frick this up. If the guy walks based on this, all blame needs to go to him. Murder 3/Manslaughter was a slam dunk. fricking idiot.


Is he possibly trying to get Chauvin to plead guilty to manslaughter without going to trial?
Posted by Geauxst Writer
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
4960 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:14 pm to
The right move.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
17191 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:15 pm to
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If they actually want a resolution they'll get this shite done as fast as possible and put the man behind for for a long time. Then we can all fricking move on.


That's the point the other poster is trying to make and I agree with him. Ellison wants him to get off so it will trigger more riots and chaos. If anyone thinks they actually care about that guy that got killed they are simply fooling themselves, this is all about an agenda to sieze power. They don't give a frick about that guy
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 1:17 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103366 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:15 pm to
Dumbass.

Raising the charge increases the chances they can’t deliver a verdict, much like in Baltimore and Sanford.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85785 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:15 pm to
Guarantee he will find a way to make this even more catastrophic.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103366 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:16 pm to
No murder trial will be completed by November of this year.

There will be months of continuances and hearings before they get to a trial.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25610 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:16 pm to
1010 kept repeating this, but just called Ellison, the State AG.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
136690 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:16 pm to
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The other officers are nothing more than political pawns
The officer threatening to mace onlookers after Floyd was clearly in extremis or dead? He is more than a pawn. The officers who were aware Floyd had no pulse, yet did not force Chauvin to get off? They are more than just pawns.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127138 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:17 pm to
So he won’t be guilty of murder 2.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
27172 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:17 pm to
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If I had to guess, Ellison actually wants him acquitted.


Yeah, Ellison wins either way. If he wins, he’s tough on racism. If he loses, it’s “look at muh oppression”.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26447 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:18 pm to
Why would the cop even go to trial? The Baltimore cops just went before the judge and took their chances there instead of with a jury.

Posted by Jinks
Member since Apr 2018
610 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:21 pm to
If Chauvin has a lawyer worth a damn he is a happy man today. No way they get Murder 2. How are they going to prove Chauvin intended to kill?
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 1:23 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71711 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:24 pm to
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No murder trial will be completed by November of this year.

There will be months of continuances and hearings before they get to a trial.

The case still hasn't even been to the grand jury yet. Then there is the pre-trial phase with pre-trial motions and discovery. Continuances aside, trial ain't happening any time soon.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21210 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:25 pm to
These dumbasses are going to make sure this cop walks and honestly I can’t say that it isn’t intentional just to foment more turmoil.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103366 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:26 pm to
If they are being charged by the state already, they are skipping the grand jury AFAIK.

The grand jury is mainly there to determine if a charge needs to be held over for trial. Ellison et all seem to have made that determination already.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35526 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:26 pm to
Lesser and included, or responsive verdicts will be options for the jury as well. That would in this case consist of each lesser grade of murder in Minnesota law. It's certainly not an all or nothing scenario on 2nd degree murder.
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