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re: What couldve been done to prevent the destruction of western civilizations
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:41 pm to terd ferguson
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:41 pm to terd ferguson
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bullshite.
quote:Who elects the people in charge?
Their constituents may have empty but the people in charge only care about money and power.
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:45 pm to LChama
Western Civilization as based on Christianity? Christianity predicts and prophesies such as collapse. Albeit a Post above lays out the flawed character rationale which is the basis for said collapse. But at its core, Evil/Lucifer is real and Humanity cannot handle the manifold and powerful deception therein. Our final hurdle is to painfully learn that fact.
The next civilizational paradigm will be based on a TRUE relationship with Jesus Christ. “For no man will have need that one teach another, for ALL shall have truth written in their hearts “.
It’s coming.
The next civilizational paradigm will be based on a TRUE relationship with Jesus Christ. “For no man will have need that one teach another, for ALL shall have truth written in their hearts “.
It’s coming.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:48 pm to LChama
The 19th Amendment for sure. It led eventually to all of the troubles we now have:
-The breakdown of the family and church and community
-The destruction of morals and values of society.
-Wage stagnation
-The sharp increase in materialism.
-Decrease in population replacement rate
-The feminization of modern day men and society in general, leading directly to all of the ridiculous crap happening today
All because people failed to understand what voting actually is, and believing that it is something that everybody in society should be able to do, even though no society in history has ever allowed practically every adult in society to vote - almost all societies didn't even allow all men to vote.
A man's vote was always in effect a vote on behalf of that man and his entire family, but it was pushed as being some unique superpower that only men had (and wielded) only ever for their own personal betterment at the expense of women (which was, of course, a scam).
A woman's power is supposed to be different from a man's, and not any superior or inferior. Actually, within any healthy society an individual woman is supposed to be more valuable than any individual man (it's why women were for the most part a protected class). Men aren't supposed to be put into a position of competing against women for jobs and a place in society - men and women are supposed to be working together as partners in society.
But I know this board and I expect to be given a lot pushback for this view, but that's the conclusion I have reached.
-The breakdown of the family and church and community
-The destruction of morals and values of society.
-Wage stagnation
-The sharp increase in materialism.
-Decrease in population replacement rate
-The feminization of modern day men and society in general, leading directly to all of the ridiculous crap happening today
All because people failed to understand what voting actually is, and believing that it is something that everybody in society should be able to do, even though no society in history has ever allowed practically every adult in society to vote - almost all societies didn't even allow all men to vote.
A man's vote was always in effect a vote on behalf of that man and his entire family, but it was pushed as being some unique superpower that only men had (and wielded) only ever for their own personal betterment at the expense of women (which was, of course, a scam).
A woman's power is supposed to be different from a man's, and not any superior or inferior. Actually, within any healthy society an individual woman is supposed to be more valuable than any individual man (it's why women were for the most part a protected class). Men aren't supposed to be put into a position of competing against women for jobs and a place in society - men and women are supposed to be working together as partners in society.
But I know this board and I expect to be given a lot pushback for this view, but that's the conclusion I have reached.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 10:03 pm to Roaad
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Protect the borders
Yep.
Protecting your national borders is also protecting your values. And both of these are part of the larger picture, which is:
We should have destroyed Radical Leftism back when we had the chance. We didn't. Now, it will someday destroy us.
It was always a fight to the death against Radical Leftism.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 10:04 pm to LChama
No women's suffrage.
Rodo
Rodo
Posted on 2/11/26 at 10:19 pm to LChama
quote:
What couldve been done to prevent the destruction of western civilizations
We did this to ourselves with our votes. We watched people like Mitch McConnell go after the Tea Party and never punished him for it. The list is endless. Lindsey Graham, Paul Ryan, Schumer, Pelosi, Grassley, Cruz, Rubio, waddling pants-crapper Nadler, and so on. We just kept voting in people that are trashcans as humans and now we sit back and ask, "what went wrong?"
We voted for the worst people on the planet and gave them tons of power. That's what happened. We're idiots.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 10:27 pm to LChama
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What couldve been done to prevent the destruction of western civilizations
Standard Oil and British Petroleum destroy one of the longest empires in human history by recognizing a bunch of nomadic tribesmen for the oil concessions roughly a century ago.
In the 1970's these same tribesmen stuck the knife deep in the back of USA and UK while creating the greatest industrial wealth transfer in human history in about a decade.
Western civilizations have been in decline ever since.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 10:33 pm to LChama
Posted on 2/11/26 at 10:38 pm to Kafka
quote:Will and Ariel Durant in The Story of Civilization (Vol. 3 - Caesar and Christ, Simon & Schuster, 1944, p. 366)
If Rome had not engulfed so many men of alien blood in so brief a time,
if she had passed all these newcomers through her schools instead of her slums, if she had treated them as men with a hundred potential excellences,
if she had occasionally closed her gates to let assimilation catch up with infiltration,
she might have gained new racial and literary vitality from the infusion, and might have remained a Roman Rome, the voice and citadel of the West.
LOSS OF COMMON LANGUAGE
At first immigrants assimilated and learned the Latin language. They worked as servants with many rising to leadership.
But then they came so fast they did not learn Latin, but instead created a mix of Latin with their own Frankish, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Romanian, Germanic and Anglo tribal tongues.
The unity of the Roman Empire began to dissolve.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 10:41 pm to LChama
The Greeks got it right: The world cycles through periods of order and chaos. It is the way of things. Civilizations rise and fall, etc.
That said, I think the US could've extended our recent period of order and prosperity by adopting sound financial policy, sane foreign policy (esp staying out of ground wars Vietnam, AFG, and Iraq), and in general staying closer the the original framework and enumerated powers given to the federal gov by the Constitution.
But we didn't do any of that, and the real question is why. Hard to say.
That said, I think the US could've extended our recent period of order and prosperity by adopting sound financial policy, sane foreign policy (esp staying out of ground wars Vietnam, AFG, and Iraq), and in general staying closer the the original framework and enumerated powers given to the federal gov by the Constitution.
But we didn't do any of that, and the real question is why. Hard to say.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 10:44 pm to LChama
Abortion and it's role in collapsing birth rates across Europe.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:09 pm to Kafka
This speech up to about 1:25 symbolizes the attitude the WWII generation progressives tried to instill in the baby boomers they produced
"I don't owe you anything!!! YOU owe ME"
"I don't owe you anything!!! YOU owe ME"
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:37 pm to LChama
No Muslims allowed. Period.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:46 pm to LChama
Our system of freedom is susceptible to this kind of rot. We can defend it but we lose some of our freedom in the process
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:51 pm to LChama
quote:
What couldve been done to prevent the destruction of western civilizations
Outlawing the manufacture and sale of the birth control pill
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:53 pm to LChama
Why hasn’t anyone asked the question - why are they coming to our country?
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:56 pm to LChama
quote:
Yeah but what led to people in charge not taking that seriously? Greed?
Pretty much this. A lust for power.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 12:31 am to LChama
Acknowledge what made communist countries a shite hole (communism) prevent it from coming here and revoking the citizenship of anyone that actively pushed to implement it.
Acknowledge what made the Middle East and Africa a shite hole (Muslims and tribe mentality), prevent it from coming here and revoking the citizenship of anyone that actively pushed to implement these things.
Acknowledge what made the Middle East and Africa a shite hole (Muslims and tribe mentality), prevent it from coming here and revoking the citizenship of anyone that actively pushed to implement these things.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 1:02 am to LChama
Avoid these two things and society and America look completely different today. You can argue wether they should have happened or not, but I don’t think you can argue what type of impact they have had.
17th Amendment (1913) – Direct election of Senators • Killed the states’ firewall against federal overreach. Senators used to answer to state legislatures, who fiercely guarded their power. Now they’re national politicians chasing votes & lobby cash. This resulted in easier federal expansion, unchecked immigration shifts (like 1965 Hart-Celler), welfare bloat, and policies that ignore state sovereignty. Voters don’t scrutinize bills like state reps would.
19th Amendment (1920) – Women’s suffrage • Expanded the electorate during a wave of individualism, education boom, urbanization, wars pulling women into jobs, contraception, and rising family costs. It reinforced trends toward smaller families, delayed marriage, and dual-income norms, driving fertility below replacement. Politicians then chased mass immigration to plug labor/pension gaps instead of fixing family incentives. Broader voter base (including women’s focus on welfare, health, kids) tilted discourse toward compassionate spending over long-term national sustainability.
17th Amendment (1913) – Direct election of Senators • Killed the states’ firewall against federal overreach. Senators used to answer to state legislatures, who fiercely guarded their power. Now they’re national politicians chasing votes & lobby cash. This resulted in easier federal expansion, unchecked immigration shifts (like 1965 Hart-Celler), welfare bloat, and policies that ignore state sovereignty. Voters don’t scrutinize bills like state reps would.
19th Amendment (1920) – Women’s suffrage • Expanded the electorate during a wave of individualism, education boom, urbanization, wars pulling women into jobs, contraception, and rising family costs. It reinforced trends toward smaller families, delayed marriage, and dual-income norms, driving fertility below replacement. Politicians then chased mass immigration to plug labor/pension gaps instead of fixing family incentives. Broader voter base (including women’s focus on welfare, health, kids) tilted discourse toward compassionate spending over long-term national sustainability.
This post was edited on 2/12/26 at 2:17 am
Posted on 2/12/26 at 6:38 am to LChama
quote:
What couldve been done to prevent the destruction of western civilizations
If we maintained the Monroe Doctrine, we would not be in this place. We should have allowed Europe and Asia to sort their own messes out.
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