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ATL United buys out Josef Martinez

Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:13 am
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
5066 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:13 am
Atlanta bought out the remainder of Josef's contract, making him a free agent. He turned around and immediately signed with Inter Miami.

Guy just hasn't been the same since his ACL injury.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
13017 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:30 am to
Is it just me or does anyone else really hate MLS copying European team names so blatantly. Atlanta United? What did you "unite"? Decatur and Cumming? Real Salt Lake? Really, the whitest city in the USA using the Spanish word for Royal? Royal what exactly? Inter Miami actually got sued for using that name, but, ironically, it fits since they take players from multiple countries and the city itself is very international. Just my gripe i guess but your very name screams we are a copycat league that is vastly inferior to the original we are copying. That is true but no need to advertise it in the name. Poor marketing.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27316 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:20 am to
I think about that sometimes too. It’s interesting if you look at the original team, nearly all of them followed the traditional American route of going City Name - Mascot.

It is all of the continued expansion teams that chose to mirror European names. At least Orlando goes by soccer?


Truth be told, it doesn’t bother me that much except to your point… al of those Uniteds, Reals etc in Europe have a real history and purpose behind the name. It wasn’t just at random.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
76281 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:24 am to
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Is it just me or does anyone else really hate MLS copying European team names so blatantly.


I'm not a fan of it.

In the case of St Louis City it makes sense, at least locally though. Because there is a very definite distinction between St Louis City and St Louis County, as well as other parts of the metro area. Since the team is located in the actual city.

They claim they chose the name as a way to unite the region, but that doesn't make a ton of sense.

There is a local radio show whose fans have been calling them the St Louis Dogs since they were announced as a way to fight against the European naming convention for a US team. I think it may actually gain some traction since Purina is the jersey sponsor. The radio show sells St Louis Dogs merch in the color scheme of the team with a similar logo too.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
13017 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 11:31 am to
United is used in Europe when two or more teams combined to form one team. For instance, Newcastle Westend merged with Newcastle Eastend to form Newcastle United.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26339 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 12:39 pm to
Real salt lake is by far the lamest
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126670 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 12:49 pm to
The league makes fun of the world calling it football and not soccer

Then a shite load of the franchises have football in the name

Ultimate cringe level

But those NBA type names in soccer sound stupid
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
79916 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 1:12 pm to
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Is it just me or does anyone else really hate MLS copying European team names so blatantly. Atlanta United?


I don't really care one way or the other. In the early days of the league, people would complain that the sport was "too americanized" which is why you saw Metrostars, Burn, Wizards, etc. change their names.
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
Member since Dec 2013
14292 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 1:24 pm to
He will sign with Miami FC.
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
6512 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 2:36 pm to
Sporting Kansas City is the worst name in sports. I also hate that shite. Bring back the Cosmos, MetroStars, Mutiny.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 8:14 pm to
Yes it’s incredibly dumb in almost all situations.

Minnesota United I’ll allow because of the twin cities

Same on Inter Miami for the reasons you mentioned

Everything else is cringe
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 8:15 pm to
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people would complain that the sport was "too americanized"


So rather than align to the international calendar or have pro/rel (2 changes that would improve the product and the national team) they decided let’s be pretentious with our team names instead.

US soccer in a nutshell
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
87414 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 8:19 pm to
Well they had the silverbacks when I lived there. Actually went to some games.

And honestly Atlanta United is better than something like that.



This post was edited on 1/18/23 at 8:21 pm
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29571 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

Is it just me or does anyone else really hate MLS copying European team names so blatantly.

Kansas City wizards >>> SKC
quote:

The league makes fun of the world calling it football and not soccer

This sounds made up
This post was edited on 1/18/23 at 8:24 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
79916 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:38 pm to
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So rather than align to the international calendar or have pro/rel (2 changes that would improve the product and the national team) they decided let’s be pretentious with our team names instead.

US soccer in a nutshell


Pro/rel wasn't a viable option until like 3 years ago. Even now, it's still a risk because the USL, while improving, isn't exactly stable.

I still haven't heard a really good argument for how changing the calendar will massively help the league. Playing during all of the NFL and NBA seasons doesn't seem like a good idea.
Posted by Ssubba
Member since Oct 2014
7395 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:23 pm to
The biggest problem with MLS is that people would rather talk about team names than a high profile player being bought out and booted from his club.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
13768 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:45 pm to
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The biggest problem with MLS is that people would rather talk about team names than a high profile player being bought out and booted from his club


Meh he’s washed and there was talk of this happening for a while.

Calling him washed just means he’s scoring a hat trick against OCSC now as karma.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86738 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:50 am to
quote:

Is it just me or does anyone else really hate MLS copying European team names so blatantly. Atlanta United? What did you "unite"? Decatur and Cumming? Real Salt Lake? Really, the whitest city in the USA using the Spanish word for Royal? Royal what exactly? Inter Miami actually got sued for using that name, but, ironically, it fits since they take players from multiple countries and the city itself is very international. Just my gripe i guess but your very name screams we are a copycat league that is vastly inferior to the original we are copying. That is true but no need to advertise it in the name. Poor marketing.



Yes, a lot of us thought it was dumb at the time. Most of us got over it because "united" is a pretty generic soccer name so it's neutral enough, that aside.

It's also pretty lame when every MLS team is like "the five stripes stand for unity, bravery, whatever"- every color and shape has some banal "meaning" instead of just going "well this looked cool." I know they're trying to instill some sort of tradition/meaning to brand new clubs, but I think forcing it makes it seem even less authentic than just telling it like it is.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
79916 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 11:45 am to
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It's also pretty lame when every MLS team is like "the five stripes stand for unity, bravery, whatever"- every color and shape has some banal "meaning" instead of just going "well this looked cool.


This isn't just an MLS thing, every sports in every country pulls that BS when they launch a new logo or uniform.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86738 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:03 pm to
Yeah probably, I just think there was such a desperate desire by American soccer fans to have a level of investment that people took it more seriously than usual. I remember Reddit MLS types buying in on that type of thing in hilarious fashion, when I think in most sports fans elsewhere just roll their eyes when the new kit email comes out explaining why this little element of the sleeve design actually represents the 1906 championship, etc.
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