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re: Should we attempt to "terraform" / green the Sahara desert
Posted on 10/16/25 at 9:52 am to BillysIsland
Posted on 10/16/25 at 9:52 am to BillysIsland
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Would probably have some.bad consequences but would theoretically eliminate a lot of hurricanes on eastern us right?
Which would probably turn more of the SE US in to desert land.
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Posted on 10/16/25 at 9:59 am to Fun Bunch
Side note: I recently saw a vid of satellite ground-penetrating radar and supposedly the Sarah contains multiple massive structures/city-ruins from ancient civilizations when the Sahara was green.
At the very least, I'd like to see excavations attempted there, if terraforming is improbable.
At the very least, I'd like to see excavations attempted there, if terraforming is improbable.
Posted on 10/16/25 at 10:03 am to Fun Bunch
This is already happening naturally. Weather pattern shifts have caused increased rainfall, which is greening the desert:
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The largest increase in greenness this year was in southern Chad, southern Sudan and Eritrea; parts of Mali, Niger, Chad, Sudan and Eritrea had the biggest increases in rainfall. One sudden wave of lushness followed an extratropical cyclone in the northwestern Sahara on September 7 and 8, which brought a downpour of rain to regions that hardly receive any, according to NASA's Earth Observatory. "What's also fascinating is that normally dry lakes in the Sahara are filling due to this event," Moshe Armon, a senior lecturer at the Institute of Earth Sciences and the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, said in an Earth Observatory release.
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Posted on 10/16/25 at 10:08 am to DesScorp
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This is already happening naturally. Weather pattern shifts have caused increased rainfall, which is greening the desert:
Some of it is natural, but some it is the result of the Great Green Wall project to re-green the Sahel and stop the expansion of the Sahara.
The trees help stop the drought/flood cycle and help with more consistent rainfall rather than just monsoon events.
I've watched a ton of videos on the Great Green Wall project and I find re-greening deserts fascinating. I even watch the weekly videos from Dustups on Youtube even though the guy annoys me. He's trying to grow a forest in desert in west texas.
Posted on 10/16/25 at 10:12 am to MorbidTheClown
I loved So-Crates
Posted on 10/16/25 at 10:18 am to MorbidTheClown
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Sam Kinison - World Hunger
All time classic
Posted on 10/16/25 at 11:12 am to Fun Bunch
Who is “we”? I don’t give one iota of a frick about the Sahara nor do I believe nor expect the people that live in or around the Sahara to give a frick about the geography of where I live.
Posted on 10/16/25 at 11:31 am to Fun Bunch
You do understand the geophysical reasons whys the Saraha exists right? How are you going to change the Subtropical High Pressure Belt that circles the globe? Do you understand the consequences of doing so?
Posted on 10/16/25 at 11:33 am to Fun Bunch
We definitely have to leave earth at some point if we will continue to evolve and use resources the way we are using them.
Posted on 10/16/25 at 11:36 am to Fun Bunch
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Should we attempt to "terraform" / green the Sahara desert
No, because it's not ours.
You can't terraform Mars either because it doesn't have the mass to produce the gravity required to hold down enough atmosphere to produce 1 atmosphere of pressure on the surface.
Without the atmospheric pressure, this happens:
This post was edited on 10/16/25 at 11:37 am
Posted on 10/16/25 at 11:40 am to TigerHornII
the most recent African humid period was very short relative to geological time periods. North Africa has experienced wet/dry conditions continuously for hundreds of millions of years depending on tilt of the earths axis and tectonic plate movements. It’s all connected
Posted on 10/16/25 at 11:45 am to BillysIsland
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Would probably have some.bad consequences but would theoretically eliminate a lot of hurricanes on eastern us right?
Or maybe increase them. The Sahara dust layer impedes development in June and July.
Posted on 10/16/25 at 12:21 pm to Fun Bunch
How exactly does someone make it rain there? People are scared of contrails and weather machines.
Doing something like this will probably doom another, currently thriving part of the world.
Doing something like this will probably doom another, currently thriving part of the world.
Posted on 10/16/25 at 1:21 pm to Fun Bunch
Terrafarm, not terraform
Posted on 10/16/25 at 1:22 pm to tzimme4
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No more Saharan Dust for us
That is where the rain forests east of the Andes get their micronutrients to survive. The Amazon has some of the poorest soil on the planet.
Posted on 10/16/25 at 4:02 pm to Fun Bunch
Can’t drive a V8 because emissions cause climate change
Let’s change the landscape, foliage, and entire weather/climate of the largest desert on earth. What could go wrong
Let’s change the landscape, foliage, and entire weather/climate of the largest desert on earth. What could go wrong
Posted on 10/16/25 at 4:04 pm to DestrehanTiger
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We won't care about disrupting the natural environment of another planet.
And it’s not like you can make the environment on mars any worse
Posted on 10/16/25 at 4:05 pm to Fun Bunch
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However, wouldn't it make sense to attempt a somewhat similar feat on earth and to learn how to do things on that scale? If someone is truly serious about terraforming Mars, working out some of the concepts here makes sense, doesn't it? Greening large parts of the Sahara would, however, have likely significant ecological impacts on the entire world, including us in the Gulf Coast.
You mean…. The big green wall?
Posted on 10/16/25 at 4:14 pm to Fun Bunch
No, man. Hell no.
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