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re: "We've been telling kids for 15 years to learn to code, now AI is coming for the coders."
Posted on 1/18/26 at 12:01 pm to UltimaParadox
Posted on 1/18/26 at 12:01 pm to UltimaParadox
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This is why everyone thinks coders being replaced. Even though they have no idea what is actually involved in making most software applications built by businesses and not hobbyist.
I don't disagree that ai can make coding basic stuff easier and quicker. It's another tool in the kit.
But come back to us when you get it troubleshoot the latest random bug of integration of multiple separate applications that is not known outside of your company.
Sounds like a developer. Agree 100%.
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Posted on 1/18/26 at 12:13 pm to brass2mouth
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don’t think anyone can confidently say that in 10-15 years
Again good coders aren't going anywhere because if you are a good coder, the easiest part of your job is code. Problem solving is the key, good coders today already don't write much code, they design solutions and hand it down to junior people to code.
Same shite except now I don't need junior people, I pass it off to AI.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 12:36 pm to RollTide1987
Oh great! Another “Learn the trades” thread.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 12:38 pm to BoogaBear
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Good coders are going no where.
LOL. You fundamentally lack understanding of what's happening.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 12:46 pm to UltimaParadox
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Let us know when AI replaces all the coders. Seems to have stalled massively. So the AI bubble marches to its end slowly.
Lol. Even if the bubble bursts, this is the future. The dotcom bubble burst too, but let me know if you think that stopped the E-commerce surge that has all but killed retail.
AI isn’t about ChatGPT. It’s about automation of task and hyper scaling labor. It isn’t going to eliminate all the jobs, it is going to redefine productivity
This post was edited on 1/18/26 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 1/18/26 at 12:59 pm to alajones
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I may see 1 out of 50 white or black kids that have it in them to crawl under a house for a living.
Do you mean to do a good job, or to do it at all??
There are a lot of bad contractors out there eking by off of $30-40k a year
This post was edited on 1/18/26 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 1/18/26 at 1:25 pm to RollTide1987
AI is gay
Posted on 1/18/26 at 1:32 pm to RollTide1987
I would still tell kids, with the aptitude, to go into coding over the trades.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 1:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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There is an irrational obsession with trades on here and in online discourse of particular demographics that ignores how shitty the vast majority of those jobs/lives are.
And the same people promoting this will slam their fists in rage at politics saying we need better "conservative" candidates while telling their own youth to go into the trades.
You dont get power in America becoming a plumber or electrician. Those people have no power at all and we all know it.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 2:18 pm to RollTide1987
My daughter went to college and became an OTA. Her husband went to trade school and became a welder.
My Son went to trade school and became a plumber. His wife went to trade school and became a dental hygienist.
All four are happy with there decisions, are now established in there perspective career fields, and are making a good living.
Here is what none of them did. Get a worthless degree in women’s gender studies or some other bullshite. They also didn’t just go get some menial minimum wage job thinking they could earn enough to raise a family.
There is nothing wrong with college or trade school as long as you pick the correct program. We need both.
My Son went to trade school and became a plumber. His wife went to trade school and became a dental hygienist.
All four are happy with there decisions, are now established in there perspective career fields, and are making a good living.
Here is what none of them did. Get a worthless degree in women’s gender studies or some other bullshite. They also didn’t just go get some menial minimum wage job thinking they could earn enough to raise a family.
There is nothing wrong with college or trade school as long as you pick the correct program. We need both.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 2:26 pm to RollTide1987
My oldest (no pics) is a coder - she’s making bank right now. She graduated from lsu in May - has already had two promotions and several bonuses.
She might be better than AI, she might be AI, i have no idea what she does - it kind of scares me.
She might be better than AI, she might be AI, i have no idea what she does - it kind of scares me.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 2:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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There is an irrational obsession with trades on here and in online discourse of particular demographics that ignores how shitty the vast majority of those jobs/lives are.
I don’t disagree, but if you truly have the ability to choose between going to college or going to trade school then you don’t plan on being a tradesman your whole life.
Just like you don’t plan on graduating with a degree in Software engineering and being a junior coder all your life. You don’t become rich by being a junior coder. You become rich by being a project manager for a software company, own a software company start up, etc.
You can do extremely well by owning a trades business
Posted on 1/18/26 at 3:00 pm to baldona
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but if you truly have the ability to choose between going to college or going to trade school then you don’t plan on being a tradesman your whole life.
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You can do extremely well by owning a trades business
I've made this point a bunch, when people try to scale a normal trade career into that, to argue how you can be rich in the trades.
The issue is that the people who have the ability to create/run a business like that, as you said, could have gone to college. The people who have the ability to do that have similar paths to owning other businesses that make a lot more money with a lot higher margins. So even on that wavelength, college still gives you the better option.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 3:20 pm to RollTide1987
Everybody will get whacked.
STEM included (especially). Little super computer will even playing field on many things.
STEM included (especially). Little super computer will even playing field on many things.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 3:20 pm to GetMeOutOfHere
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Assuming that this were to come to fruition, how is this different from what exists now, only on a higher level?
Just means fewer coding jobs. Which I think was the point Mike Rowe was making.
I don’t think he or anybody else believes coders will be completely gone but the demand won’t be there. If they needed 500k coders pre AI but post AI they only need 250k that’s a significant job loss. (Those numbers are just made up to visualize my point)
Posted on 1/18/26 at 3:29 pm to brass2mouth
Trades, AI, whatever. Within the next 50 years, we'll all be serfs to the tech oligarchs.
Roles within US-based companies will be filled by H1Bs, contractors, or off-shored labor.
Roles within US-based companies will be filled by H1Bs, contractors, or off-shored labor.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 3:35 pm to RollTide1987
I've mentioned this secret before.
Half of coders can't code.
They do other things like test, or paperwork, or "scrum master", they write reports, they go to meetings.
But they actually can't put together working software.
We need more working software in the world, a lot more.
There are many deep algos that need to be worked on, especially in AI.
AI is going to reap those low skill SW Devs.
The rest will be fine, better than fine.
Half of coders can't code.
They do other things like test, or paperwork, or "scrum master", they write reports, they go to meetings.
But they actually can't put together working software.
We need more working software in the world, a lot more.
There are many deep algos that need to be worked on, especially in AI.
AI is going to reap those low skill SW Devs.
The rest will be fine, better than fine.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 3:56 pm to BulldogXero
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Trades, AI, whatever. Within the next 50 years, we'll all be serfs to the tech oligarchs.
Roles within US-based companies will be filled by H1Bs, contractors, or off-shored labor.
So what happens to most of the American workforce?
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:15 pm to UltimaParadox
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Let us know when AI replaces all the coders. Seems to have stalled massively. So the AI bubble marches to it's end slowly.
There will always be human oversight over AI coding. The point is you don't need teams of coders anymore. Just AI and some quality control.
Also, AI use isn't going anywhere except up. They're spending hundreds of billions if not trillions on it, including infrastructure that will take years to build.
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