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re: Why does interstate work take so long? The 18 mile Atchafalaya stretch took 2 years

Posted on 2/16/26 at 8:44 am to
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
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Posted on 2/16/26 at 8:44 am to
1000% but what’s Texas excuse? Feel like vinton to Houston is another corridor of end less construction.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
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Posted on 2/16/26 at 8:46 am to
Because the client green lighting the project and paying for it isn’t writing checks out of their pocket
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
73868 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 8:50 am to
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My anecdotal take is that at least in LA, there here are no good road contractors. There are a few big ones that charge huge fees and take as long as they want, which has led to the lower bidders having huge variations in quality.
A lazy and incorrect take.

Just like with forensic analysis of plane crashes, there are more than just one or two reasons why modern-day highway RE-construction (which is most of what are discussing here) takes as long as it does and costs as much as it does.

If I had to choose a single primary reason from the list, it would be due to the inflexible current system of triage of allocation of resources (including life-cycle), designing the project, and inspection of the project in construction. Design-Build addresses most of those issues but historically the LADOTD has been extremely hesitant to embrace the concept.

Working on an Interstate Highway at night* with live traffic on it is like trying to change a tire on a moving vehicle.

But it’s easier to say that the Boh Brothers of the State are fat, dumb, lazy and greedy.

*Often mandated by the construction documents to inconvenience the least number of traveling public, not discretionary by the contractor
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
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130419 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 8:51 am to
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I swear they have been working on I-10 between Orange and Louisiana line since I was in High School in the 90’s.


I was told this is finally finished?

Havent passed through since last summer though
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 2/16/26 at 8:57 am to
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swear they have been working on I-10 between Orange and Louisiana line since I was in High School in the 90’s.

Future I-49 says ‘hole muh beer me’

Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
27354 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 8:58 am to
Why is that waterpark between Lafayette and Lake Charles taking so long?

Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
12156 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 9:07 am to
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1000% but what’s Texas excuse? Feel like vinton to Houston is another corridor of end less construction.


I think Texas's situation is that as long as the tax revenue and federal dollars continue to come in. Their philosophy is to continue building. Once a third lane is completed, lets add a fourth after the construction on the third is done.

Texas has been helped by the fact that much of its urban controlled access construction, bypasses, or loops have been financed using tolls. Another advantage is the large Texas Representative delegation that helps Texas get its fair share of federal road tax funding.

I wish Louisiana would start fast tracking projects like I-49 South through either a tollway or an increase in gas taxes. I would be a proponent of regional gas taxes. If a region wants to levy a 10 or 20 cent gas tax, let them tie the parishes together and build a regionial tax base to get these mega projects off the ground and into a construction phase. A few million here or there will do nothing to get these projects finished.

All it does is fund engineering firms who design projects and by the time they are finally eligible for full funding have to be re-engineered and redesigned and refunded.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
13825 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 9:19 am to
Why is that waterpark between Lafayette and Lake Charles taking so long?
—It opened, went broke, and closed.
Posted by jasonbr1975
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2024
1666 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 9:27 am to
One word now that is different from 30-40 years ago...

LAWYERS
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
19146 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 9:30 am to
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I was told this is finally finished? Havent passed through since last summer though


Haven’t been in about 6 months but I’m heading back to BR Friday.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35455 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 9:55 am to
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Why does interstate work take so long? The 18 mile Atchafalaya stretch took 2 years

If they worked every single day of the year, no holidays of weekends off that's about 131 feet fully completed per day. Honestly that doesn't sound unreasonable considering it's a fricking bridge.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23088 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 9:59 am to
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A lazy and incorrect take.


Lazy? Maybe. Incorrect? You didn’t explain how so.

Louisiana roads are not good, the output of new, or reconstruction, is underwhelming. At least some of that deserves to be put on the contractors, and it sounds like we are in agreement that the contracting market is highly concentrated with profitable companies.

In job inspection or resident inspection is a complete joke and gravy train for whoever has the contract.
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
1916 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 10:04 am to
Have you met any people that do heavy road construction work?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40615 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 10:11 am to
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Nobody wants to drag out the project any less than the contractor


I guess you have not met the contract’s friend… Mr. Change Order.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11637 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 10:14 am to
I remember a couple of decades ago work being done on I-10 in Houston and it being done 24 hours a day, each and every day. The lights they set up were impressive and they were moved as the work progressed.

I'd expect there were bonuses for early completion.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2257 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 10:18 am to
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I swear they have been working on I-10 between Orange and Louisiana line since I was in High School in the 90’s.


They have been continuously working on I10 between LC and Houston since they started building the construction on I10 began in 1950's
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40615 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 10:18 am to
They built two new spans for the I-10 bridge from NOLA east to Slidell - 3 lanes plus shoulders each for 5 miles… in less than 5 years

The new Belle Chasse toll bridge was built in just a couple of years.

The reason why construction takes so long is crappy construction firms and a government who won’t hold them accountable

Everyone talks about orange to Beaumont in Texas… but that’s actually many different projects. They do a project from one end to the other, then by the time it ends, it’s tine for another expansion project. It’s not just one project. .
Posted by GuidoVestieri
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2021
965 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 10:22 am to
That's a blood bank for Vampires.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40615 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 10:23 am to
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Design-Build addresses most of those issues but historically the LADOTD has been extremely hesitant to embrace the concept.


In the rare instance where the states chooses design-build… they choose god-awful contractors and later say design -build doesn’t work. Despite the fact it works everywhere else…
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
21751 posts
Posted on 2/16/26 at 10:56 am to
Drove through there recently on a drive from BR to Houston.
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